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古儒吉2009-4-10巴里島唱場問答集

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Bali, April 10 (Friday): It was truly Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam – a One World Family that gathered at the satsang this evening. The participants of the advanced meditation programme represented countries from across the globe. Their interaction with Sri Sri reflected common queries of people everywhere. Sri Sri’s answers: simple knowledge tools, applicable to every human being.
410(星期五)巴里島:這真是「天下一家」--這個傍晚全世界像一家人般地聚集在這個唱場。這些高級靜心課程的學員代表了來自全球的各個國家。他們與古儒吉的互動反映出各地人們共同的追求與探尋。古儒吉的回答是:簡單的知識工具,適用於每一個人。


Q. Could you please explain the significance of Easter?
A.: Easter is the symbol of spring, it welcomes the spring. There is a new resurgence. Everything is a celebration in life.
:能請您解釋復活節的意義嗎?

答:復活節是春天的象徵,它歡迎春天的到來。有復活再生的意義。生命中的每一件事都是一個慶典。
Take any excuse to celebrate. We don’t have to wait for an occasion. Life itself is a celebration.

找任何理由來慶祝。我們不需要等待一個時機。生命本身就是個慶典。


Q. Can you please tell us about ego?
A.: Ego? When someone insults you, they will tell you what it is. I don’t have to tell you. You do some good job and somebody ignores you or gives you a derogatory remark: you will automatically know what ego is. And the antidote for ego is being natural. When you are natural, then the small ego cannot survive, then you expand. Or your ego should become so big that you take everybody in it. Then also it will not bother you.
問:可否請您談談「我執」?

答:「我執」?當有人污辱你的時候,他們就會告訴你那是什麼了。我不用告訴你。你做了些好事而別人卻忽視你或給你不好的評價,那你就很自動地知道我執是什麼了。我執的解藥是保持自然。當你是自然的,那小我就無法生存,然後你就擴展了。或是說你的我執應該變的大到把每個人都包含進去,那樣的話它也就不會困擾你了。


Q. What is time? What is life? Is there any correlation between the two? Also, do parallel dimensions exist?
A.: Yes. Time is the measurement between two events. Space is the distance between two objects. That’s it. Life is between birth and death. The distance between birth and death is called life.
問:時間是什麼?生命是什麼?這兩者有關聯性嗎?還有,平行次元存在嗎?

答:是的。時間是兩個事件之間的間隔。空間是兩個物體之間的距離。就是這樣。生命是介於出生與死亡之間。出生與死亡之間的距離就叫做生命。

 
Q. What is karma and how to reduce it?
A.: You know, you should read the book Celebrating Silence. Read the book and gift it to everyone you know.
問:業力是什麼,如何減少它呢?

答:你知道嗎,你應該讀慶祝寧靜這本書。讀這本書並送給你認識的每一個人。


I was travelling from Canada to the United States of America. A man at the security check came running to me and removed a copy of Celebrating Silence from his bag. ‘You are the author of this book?’ he asked me. I said, ‘I suppose so.’ He then told me that somebody presented the book to him for his birthday. ‘My life has changed after reading the book,’ he said. He hasn’t done the course, doesn’t know anything about the organisation, just reading some pages from the book made a difference. You all have the book Celebrating Silence and Celebrating Love? You should gift it to everyone. It makes a difference. All the knowledge is present there.

當我從加拿大到美國的時候,一個在安檢處的男士跑向我,並從他的袋子裡拿出「慶祝寧靜」這本書。他問我:「你是這本書的作者嗎?」我說:「我想是的。」然後他告訴我有人在他的生日時送他這本書。他說,「讀了這本書後,我的生命從此改變了。」他並沒有參加過課程,對這個組織也不了解,只是讀了這本書的幾頁就為他帶來了變化。你們都有「慶祝寧靜」和「慶祝愛」這兩本書嗎?送給每一個人。它會為他們帶來改變。所有的知識都在那兒。
I have spoken in detail about karma in the book.
我在書裡對業力有詳細的說明。


Q. The Sudarshan Kriya is too short. It starts and finishes in no time. Can it be made a bit longer?
A.: When you are happy, time appears to go very fast. Ask those who are here for the 21-day Teacher’s Training Programme. Did you find it short? (People throw their hands in the air.) They also find it too short. That’s because they are really enjoying it.
問:淨化呼吸法太短了。才剛開始就結束了。可以弄得長一些嗎?

答:當你快樂的時候,時間似乎過的很快。問問那些在這兒上21天師資訓練課程的學員。你們覺得時間短暫嗎?(人們舉高他們的手。)他們也覺得時間太短暫了。那是因為他們十分地享受這個課程。

Meditate after short kriya.
在短的淨化呼吸法後靜坐。


Q. What is divine love?
A.: Love, itself, is divine. When it has no distortions, it is divine. When it is unconditional, it is divine. Conditions, such as, ‘I love you, so you must love me’, come from the small, small mind and small love. Divine love is unconditional. And always evolutionary.
問:什麼是神性的愛?

答:愛,本身就是神性的。當愛沒有扭曲,它就是神性的。當愛是無條件的,它就是神性。條件,就像「我愛你,所以你必須愛我」,是來自小小的心智,小小的愛。神性的愛是無條件的,而且總是不斷地在提升。」


Q. What is the origin of thought? There is a thought behind every discovery and behind every misery as well. Why does a thought occur?
A.: Where did these thoughts come in your head? It came in your head, right? Better find that out yourself. Before it comes, try to catch it. When you look inside, you will find that the thought is coming from an empty space. An empty space. And that empty space is the mother of all inventions, all creativity.
問:想法的源頭是什麼?在每個發明和每個痛苦背後都有一個想法。為什麼想法會出現?

答:你腦中的想法來自何處?它來到你的頭腦中,是嗎?最好是由你自己去發現。在它來以前,試著去捕捉它。當你往內看,你會發現想法是來自一個什麼都沒有的空間。而那個空盪的空間是所有發明、所有創意的源頭。


That’s why, time and again, experience silence. You will get creative and innovative thoughts will come to you. Our mind is chattering all the time, 24 hours. That’s why be silent. Silence increases our energy level, our sharpness and awareness level. It has enormous potential. Imagine someone with insomnia – they are tired the whole day and are unable to sleep at night too. They don’t know how to rest. They chatter and chatter. You continuously talk and listen to the television and radio. We get immersed in sound from morning to night, from the time we get out of bed till we go to bed again. Chatter, chatter! How much wear and tear would’ve happened to our brain! We don’t give it any time to rest. There is so much disharmony around you. You know why you like music? Because music is a harmonious sound and all disharmonious sounds gets submerged in it.
那就是為什麼,時候到了,要體驗「靜默」。 你將會有創意且創新的想法會出現。我們的心智總是喋喋不休地說個不停,24小時。那就是為什麼要保持靜默。靜默可以提升我們的能量層次、靈敏度以及覺知度。它有極大的潛能。想像一個失眠的人---他們疲累了一整天晚上也無法睡。他們不知道如何休息。他們一直說個不停。你一直說話,一直看電視和聽收音機。我們從早到晚一直和聲音在一起,從早上起床一直到再度上床。喋喋不休說個不停!對我們的頭腦來說是多大的耗損!我們沒給頭腦一點休息的時間。在你的周圍有如此多的不和諧。你知道你為什麼喜歡音樂嗎?因為音樂是和諧的聲音,而所有不和諧的聲音會被淹沒於其中。


You will start enjoying that quietness. That inner harmony and serenity is much more pleasurable than the best music you can ever listen to.

I am not saying you should never listen to music. It is necessary but don’t overdo it. You should eat, but you shouldn’t overeat. Similarly, you should listen to music, but not get obsessed with it.

你會開始喜歡寧靜。那內在的和諧和安詳是比任何你聽過最好的音樂更怡人。我並不是說你不應該聽音樂。它是需要的,但不要太過度為之。你應該吃,但不應該吃太多。同樣地,你應該聽音樂,但不要沉迷於音樂。


Q. Silence is good, but in reality people who talk more, get more.
A.: When you are scared and afraid, you don’t talk when you should be talking.
But when you are confident, you talk where you need to talk and don’t talk when you don’t need to.

問:靜默是好的,但在現實生活中,說的多的人也得到的多。

答:當你害怕恐懼的時候,你應該說話而不說;但當你有自信的時候,你該說的時候會說,不需要說的時候就不會說。

Q. How would you know that I’ve make the right decision?
A.: Just wait for the result and you will know.
問:要如何知道我做了一個正確的決定?

答:只要等待結果出來之後,你就會知道。


Q. Art of Living and meditation encourage a calm and slow mind. At work we need a fast and aggressive mind. How do I reconcile this?
A.: If fast and aggressive minds led to progress, then Iraq and Afghanistan should have been the most prosperous countries in the world. Afghanistan has had aggression for more than 30 years, they’ve seen nothing but war. The Human Rights Commissioner came to our German centre. He did the part I course and requested to be allowed to cook his own food. He was not eating anything. What was the matter? He thought everybody at the ashram ate drugged food because everyone was so happy. He was scared to eat our food. Then, our people spoke to him, I also spoke to him. For the last 20 years, he had never seen happy people. And here he couldn’t believe that people were so happy. He realised that people could be happy after doing the kriya. You don’t need to be on drugs to be on a high. It was so funny.
問:生活的藝術和靜心助長一個冷靜緩慢的心智。在工作中,我們需要一個快速、有侵略性的心智,我該如何協調?

答:如果快速有侵略性的心智可以導致成功,那伊拉克和阿富汗因該是世界上最繁榮的國家。阿富汗激進了三十多年,他們除了戰爭什麼也沒有。人權委員會來到我們在德國的靜心所,他參加了初級的課程,然後要求允許他煮自己的食物。他什麼都沒吃。怎麼會這樣?因為他認為每個在靜心所的人都吃了被下了毒的食物,因為每個人看起來都很快樂。他很害怕吃我們的食物。然後我們的人跟他說,我也跟他說。過去二十年來,他從來沒有看過快樂的人。而在這兒,他無法相信人們是這麼的快樂。他了解到人們做完淨化呼吸法後是可以快樂的。你不需要吸毒來享受快樂。這是很有趣的事。


Q. Are the kriya, meditation and seva enough for a peaceful life or should I read the Bhagwad Gita?
A.: You should read the Bhagwad Gita. It is an important book on yoga. It’s good.
問:淨化呼吸法、靜心和服務是否就足夠過一個平靜的生活,或者我該讀薄伽梵歌?

答:你應該讀薄伽梵歌。它是一本闡釋瑜珈的重要書籍。它很好。


Q. You said that the past is a dream. People have been sexually, financially, spiritually abused. I have had nightmares about it. How do you say it can be dream?
A.: Listen, people have gone through abuse. Practices like the Sudarshan Kriya, pranayama, and yogasanas will help them to erase those impressions and move forward. Along with the kriya, see the whole event as a movie, a dream. This understanding, without giving them the depth of meditation, is incomplete. This understanding and the practices complement each other. It’s like watching television and listening to it. You have to do both.
問:您說過去是一場夢。有人經歷性、財務及精神方面的虐待。我自己有過這樣的惡夢。您如何說那是一場夢?

答:聽著,人都曾經歷虐待、遺棄。像淨化呼吸法、調息法與瑜珈體位法的練習會幫助你去除掉那些印象然後往前邁進。隨著淨化呼吸,把整個事件當成一場電影、一場夢。這樣的了解,若是沒有靜心的深度是不完整的。這樣的了解和練習相輔相成。就像看電視的時候也要聽,兩件事你都必需做。


Q. How can we find a cure for auto immune diseases?
A.: Have confidence, pray and leave the rest to the divine
問:我們如何能找到自體免疫疾病的藥方?

答:信心,祈禱然後把其餘的交給神。


Q: My mind is alright but the problem I face is with my heart. My heart keeps troubling. Sometimes I can feel my heart is bleeding.
A: Read knowledge books. Listen to the knowledge talks. That’s why I have given a commentary on three types of knowledge talks. Patanjali Yogasutras – all about yoga and the mind. Bhakti Sutras which explain the different types of love. The Ashtavakra Gita which explain every aspect of life and awareness.
問:我的頭腦還好,但我面對的問題是我的心。我的心一直有困擾。有時我可以感覺到我的心在淌血。

答:讀知識的書籍。聽知識的談話。那是為什麼我對三種知識談話做了評述。Patanjali瑜珈經言---談論有關瑜珈和心智。愛的金玉良言---解釋不同種類的愛。阿胥塔瓦卡經言解釋生命和覺知的各個面向。


Q.: Could give us some suggestion on career development, especially during the economic crisis?
A.: This is just a passing phase, don’t worry about it.
問:能給我一些職業發展的建議嗎,尤其在這次的金融風暴中?

答:這只是個短暫的過程,不要擔心。


Q.: What is the soul?
A.: Soul is the one who is asking, the one who is understanding, sleeping, the one who is doing everything. See, there are different aspects: the individual self, small self and the big self. The small self has five aspects - ignorance, fear, ego, craving, aversion. Turn back and see your life: How ignorant you were and how much aversion you had. How are you now? It’s reducing. Once these things are reduced, you become one with the universe.
問:靈魂是什麼?

答:靈魂是那個正在問的,是那個正在了解的,是正在睡覺的,是那個正在做每一件事的。看,有不同的面向--- 個別的本我、小我、大我。小我有五個面向:無知、恐懼、我執、渴望、厭惡。回過頭看看你的生命:你過去有多無知,有多少的厭惡。而你現在如何呢?正在減少中。一旦這些事減少了,你就變得與宇宙合而為一。


Q: When you were a child, did you ever get into a fight?
A.: I am still a child. My childhood will never finish, I will never let it finish.
問:當你還是孩子的時候,你曾和人打過架嗎?

答:我現在還是小孩子。我的童年永遠不會結束,我不會讓它結束。


Q: How did your parents raise you?
A.: Very good.. Always understanding and always cooperative.

問:您的父母如何養育您?

答:永遠的體諒與協助。

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