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2 Minutes, Fact—What Philippine Did and Said to TWN

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Good Samaritan 易振寰: The PCG have their own rules on how to engage with alien boat. If you want to talk about facing reality, how about answering the question how did the Taiwan government arrived with their own conclusion without getting ALL the facts? Their request for a joint investigation is proof that they don't have all the facts yet.查看翻譯
5月26日 2:48
Good Samaritan Benny: If there is anyone who is distorting here it is you. How can you say the Philippine government will distort or fabricate their findings when it is yet to release the investigation report?

You mean you are judging a report without even knowing y......查看更多查看翻譯
5月26日 2:53
Benny Lin We have all the facts. And there are only two facts we really need. 1) The PCG shot dead an innocent fisherman. 2) His fishing boat did not ram PCG ship. How sad it is for Phil government to start their investigation with a lie by claiming our fishing ......查看更多查看翻譯
5月26日 3:00 · 1
易振寰 Good Samaritan, from your well experiences, do you think, on this accident case at that moment, when the time PCG crew was firing to Taiwan fishing boat, does the scenario fulfill Philippians PCG’s rules?查看翻譯
5月26日 3:05 · 1
Benny Lin The PCG have their own rules to engage with alien boat? Yes and we know that now because one of the rules is to kill and destroy unarmed fishermen at any cost. Great job PCG and Philippine government. No wonder the Philippine still way behind Taiwan, C......查看更多查看翻譯
5月26日 3:08
Tony Yang Good Samaritan, if you think that I misunderstood the post you mentioned with the link, then I have no further reason to keep this issue going. I think that I have received all your info correctly and you think that there is misunderstanding on it. This situation will only lead the fire.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:11
Good Samaritan Tony, it's ok, too many posts here, it happens...查看翻譯
5月26日 3:13
Eva Lim Samaritan, if you want to know why the TW government jumped to conclude that it was a murder, you really need to step out of your square and look at it as this is happening to the PHL fisherman. The reaction from your people and government will be reas......查看更多查看翻譯
5月26日 3:14來自手機 · 1
Good Samaritan 易振寰 : From the point of the PCG, they said they "fulfilled" their rules.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:14
Benny Lin GS, can a repeated offender be trusted? Your government is well known for being a cheat. Do I have to keep reminding you about the Hong Kong bus hostage crisis? Ding ding again....Do we have a conclusion on that? I dont call you names. I am saying the......查看更多查看翻譯
5月26日 3:15 · 2
Good Samaritan Benny: How did you know that the PCG rules say to kill and destroy unarmed fisherman?

If you show me this rule, then I will agree with you. If you can't, then stick to the facts.

If you are civilized, why do you keep calling names people who disagree with you? Why can't you argue in a CIVIL MANNER which is expected from a CIVILIZED person to which you claim you are?查看翻譯
5月26日 3:17
Benny Lin As I told you I dont call you names. Calling names would be calling you an idiot brown dirty Asian. You are insensitive and you are a prick to me. Why can't you be smarter so you know what's civilization? To you civilization is not calling names but PCG shot dead innocent fisherman is civilized. Bitch please! Dont have double standard. And I am not calling you names FYI. You are acting like a bitch.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:24
Good Samaritan Eva, like I have said earlier in one of my post, I don't have an opinion yet on who is wrong or who is right. Up until the investigation being done by the Philippine government is published or finished.

Is that too much to ask?

Is the investigation ......查看更多查看翻譯
5月26日 3:26
Benny Lin You just told everyone here that the PCG fulfilled their rules. And then you know what happened next right? They SHOT dead our fisherman. So one of their RULES must be to shoot alien unarmed boat right?? So are you going to agree with me now and admit you are wrong? Hahaha, now you are a stupid bitch. And FYI I dont call you names. You just showed the world that you are a bitch and stupid at the same time.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:27
Benny Lin Yes that is too much to ask for investigation being done by your government. For such a high profile incident like this the investigation should have been finished by now, not 5 years later.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:30
Good Samaritan Benny, I did not tell everyone, I only responded to 易振寰 .

You have not answered my request: show me the rules on the PCG that says "kill and destroy unarmed fisherman".

Your resorting again to name-calling is unbecoming of a CIVILIZED person.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:31
易振寰 Samaritan, with your expertise, how you think, does the PCG rules which requests crew to fire to alien fishing boat, that rule is compliance to international convention rules?查看翻譯
5月26日 3:34 · 1
Benny Lin Hahaha, yes you just responded to 易振寰 on an open facebook discussion which the whole world can see! Man you are funny! No wonder I can't convince you that I dont resort to name callings. You are what you say. Must I show you the rules? They already did it and whether this was written in their rule book or not is irrelevant.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:34 · 1
Good Samaritan 易振寰: Which international convention rules? pls. point a link so I can review it.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:36
Good Samaritan Benny, the incident happened on May 9, 2013. You said 5 years later. You must be talking of another incident.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:38
Benny Lin Wow it could take years for you to review it.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:38
Benny Lin I am talking about this incident. If we didnt press for joint investigation the report from your government will be out 5 years later if not longer.查看翻譯
5月26日 3:39 · 1
Good Samaritan Benny, can you cite one previous incident to support your argument on the "5 years later"?查看翻譯
5月26日 3:41
Benny Lin Let me think....hmm how about the Hong Kong bus hostage incident two years ago?? We are still waiting for your government to do something about it and Hong Kong still put up the Black Travel Warning to your country until today.....hmmm it's been two years and counting tick tock tick tock......查看翻譯
5月26日 3:44 · 2
Eva Lim You keep insisting for answers to your questions. When I did, you then play around with words...collect and gather. Then sorry if I offended you and i ll rephrase it, you are given the world a bad impression and an opportunity to say bad things about you查看翻譯
5月26日 3:53來自手機 · 2
Eva Lim For Samaritan. When I say the worlds doesn't like PHL, it is not my opinion, it comes from your media http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2013/05/18/943467/asymmetrical查看翻譯
Asymmetrical | Opinion, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com
www.philstar.com
Perhaps Taipei wants our senior representatives to walk on their knees while delivering a letter of apology from our president.
5月26日 4:16來自手機 · 2
易振寰 Dear Samaritan, I thought you knew the international convention rules, and I’m expecting to you sharing with me, since the firing action was done by Philippians PCG.查看翻譯
5月26日 4:20 · 1
易振寰 Samaritan, can you share with me the rules what Philippines government requests PCG crews to follow up that how to evaluate and how to make decision about weapon usage, includes the baseline for self-defense to alien fishing boat?查看翻譯
5月26日 4:40 · 1
Good Samaritan 易振寰: what is the internation rule? pls. show it first. you said "compliance" to the internation rule. so which and what is this...查看翻譯
5月26日 6:23
Good Samaritan Eva, you said that Philippines did not share evidence. How is that so? Taiwan, being considered a "province" by Philippines due to one-China policy, is not in position to "demand" since it cannot act like it is a "country". So any request made, need to......查看更多查看翻譯
5月26日 6:33 · 1
Eva Lim For Backspace now, this is why I insisted he's a faggot http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/04/09/19/52/marcos-held-drag-military-party-cables-reveal查看翻譯
Philippine dictator forced soldiers to wear drag
news.ninemsn.com.au
Then-Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos forced his military chiefs to parade a⋯⋯更多
5月26日 6:37來自手機 · 1
易振寰 have no position here to answer you, because I’m not UN representative. At same time, I’m sure that you can find it out with your effort, because your government is one member nation in UN. I hope this answered your question.查看翻譯
5月26日 6:38
Good Samaritan So Benny, has it been 5 years already? You said 5 years, as I know it's still 2 years only. LOL查看翻譯
5月26日 6:42
Benny Lin GS wrote:" The link you provided, I am familiar with Alex Magno, who is an opinion writer. He was writing on his own opinion. This guy has been critical with the President as he was close to the former president, which the current president, Aquino, wants jailed due to corruption". This is your best answer? Cmon man. He was writing based on FACTS and you still want to dispute that. Oh no...查看翻譯
5月26日 6:42
Good Samaritan Benny: You're interested in FACTS now, huh?查看翻譯
5月26日 6:46
Good Samaritan 易振寰 : If you don't know, why did you say if the PCG act was in "compliance" to international rules?查看翻譯
5月26日 6:48
Eva Lim So if TW was to drop a bomb on you, you would say the bomb came from China? To me, you are using the one china policy at times when it is only beneficial to you. Whatever the relationship is between Magno and Aquino, the facts he wrote about your neighbors'impression of you is very true查看翻譯
5月26日 6:51來自手機 · 2
Benny Lin GS wrote: "Eva, you said that Philippines did not share evidence. How is that so? Taiwan, being considered a "province" by Philippines due to one-China policy, is not in position to "demand" since it cannot act like it is a "country". So any request made, need to be processed CAREFULLY, in-order for Philippines not to breach the one-china policy". When Taiwan was making investments in the Philippines or helping import Phil workers to Taiwan your government treat us like a country and did not ask China if Taiwan could invest in the Philippines. Suddenly when it comes down to this incident you are citing One China policy? Do you know how ridiculous this sounds? Without One China policy itself your government is already a non responsive/ dysfunctional, corrupt, manipulative administration and has no sincerity and heart to get to the bottom of this incident. At least not for now!查看翻譯
5月26日 6:57 · 2
Benny Lin And I agree with your statement that any request made need to be processed carefully be it with or without One China policy. But can you tell your government that carefully is not LONG-TIME-LY!查看翻譯
5月26日 7:02 · 1
Benny Lin My definition of fact is clear. Your definition of fact is blurry and delayed. Fact No: 1 One dead fisherman shot by PCG. Fact No: 2 Taiwan fishing boat did not ram PCG ship. Fact No: 3 Regardless of the investigation outcome from Phil government or joint investigation the fisherman will not come back from the dead. What other facts do you need?查看翻譯
5月26日 7:15 · 1
易振寰 Good Samaritan, the point is your government shall be able to make sure how to establish a specified procedure and communicate with other countries, in progressively, when PCG is engaging alien fishing boat on water in coming future.

If possible, all of those things shall be acceptable by other countries. Not such investigation after killed on field.

Again, it’s things about humanism on the world. Not justice procedure in your own country.查看翻譯
5月26日 7:49 · 2
易振寰 My Good Samaritan, not sure about what you personally in real life who you are, but as you can see my profile, I’m nothing person who cares about the friendship between Taiwan and Philippines. I’m appreciating with you and your peoples’ contribution to our country in past time. Without this, it is impossible develops by Taiwan salve. I love you people just like love my family, this is a thanks giving from my heart for you.

During the discussion in past 20 hours, I felt you are someone conscientious for your country. Please allow me point two things here. Again, I’m nothing person in my country, but just want two countries goes better in future.

For long term, I hope your government or any political parties could make friendly hands with opposite governments in progressively. Make sure the rules how PCG allowed to treat the engagement on waters for alien fishing boats, response to their country by President Office on time if any tragedy happened (ie. fishing man on boat who killed by PCG). In my short opinion, this is most important things during contention events.

For short term, I believe a joined-investigation will be started very soon in coming days, of course, with your lubrication, your government – Philippines, and my country --- Taiwan could cooperate to each other, and find a proper way to check each evidences in detail, as quick as possible. Not only the facts that people show for the world, but also the truth what God happy with and bless for.

Good night, it’s nice discuss with you and welcome you to visit Taiwan. Wish God bless you faith to Philippians and my loving Taiwan.查看翻譯
5月26日 8:11 · 1
Good Samaritan 易振寰 : Ack. and thanks for the kind words.

The encounter that happened which resulted to the death of a Taiwanese fisherman is a very unfortunate incident. This has been relayed nonetheless by the Philippine President to the Taiwan President.

I agree with you, for long term, we need cooperation. Not only, on the investigation, but it is also important that all countries who have interest in our common seas, should soon come to an agreement or protocol, on how to patrol these areas.

I understand your frustration on the "response time", but you should consider also the delicate issue of the one-china policy that the Philippines adhere to. Even though the Philippines is very willing to help or accommodate the requests from Taiwan, it has to do so without incurring the ire of China, who considers your country as her province.

Anyway, I really wish you and Taiwan people the best. And I do wish someday you will get your independence, and be recognized, officially, as a country and not as a province of China.

I wish the family left behind by the dead fisherman find peace and continue to live a meaningful life. That wish goes to you and to the rest of us. God bless...查看翻譯
5月26日 10:23 · 3
Benny Lin GS: thank you for your sincere message. Lets pray for peace and may God bless the Philippines and Taiwan.查看翻譯
5月26日 15:14來自手機 · 3
Cy Bombeo Went back here just to see how people are doing here. I'm glad to see positive words from both sides. I hope this is how both government settle this incident, in a peaceful way. I've read that NBI from the PH already arrived to TW and will have a scheduled investigation on the fishing boat this wednesday, also PH already gave the video recording to TW investigators for review. Now that's what I call teamwork. I hope this will bring a closure to the incident. PH is now actually ready to pay the dead fisherman's kin. Now I can see how Taiwan were different from Communist China.查看翻譯
5月27日 9:03 · 6
易振寰中華民國法務部政務次長陳明堂表示，調查結果尚未出爐前，希望外界不要妄加揣測，以免影響真相的發現。
6月1日 20:22
Cy Bombeo Calling all Filipinos, let's pray for Taiwan. Just heard about the killer quake that hit them recently. Hope many people are safe.查看翻譯
6月3日 7:05 · 1
Jason Geraldizo hahaha...ayon oh...pwidi naman palang mag exchange ng kind words...may barbaric pang nalalaman tong mga to...alam naman na ung sympatiya nila sa namatay nilang kababayan...wag lang sana iginiit at magsalita nang kung anu2 laban sa pinas...wala naman sila sa pangyayari...
6月3日 8:07
易振寰 http://english.rti.org.tw/newsinfo.aspx?tid=B4B92AA68032A589
Manila officials: Report on shooting to be completed in two days
english.rti.org.tw
The Philippines says its report on the investigation into the shooting of a Taiw⋯⋯更多
6月12日 3:28
Cy Bombeo Actually it's almost done. This is from our side. At least it's now based from facts and investigations, not speculations or external pressure. http://globalnation.inquirer.net/77533/de-lima-confirms-recommendation-to-file-charges-vs-pcg查看翻譯
De Lima confirms recommendation to file charges vs PCG
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Justice Secretary Leila de Lima has confirmed a recommendation to press charges ⋯⋯更多
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